Jeff Steinmann: Welcome to the How to Quit Working show. Today, I have Charlotte Erickson. Now, Charlotte is known as “The Glass Child”. That is the name under which she releases her music and Charlotte has devoted her entire life to music. She does not have any tolerance for what other people tell her she’s supposed to do. And she is bound and determined to live her life the way she wants to live it with no limitations whatsoever. Charlotte, welcome to the show.
Charlotte Eriksson: Thank you so much for having me.
Jeff: I’m so glad to have you here, Charlotte. You are so freaking fascinating. The first thing I do when I have a potential guest, is I go and check out their website and I go and look and see, “Well, is this person a total fraud? Or are they just trying to sell something? Or what’s their game? Why are they trying to get on my show?” And when I went to your site, I found this passage that I want to read.
“I’m messy and I’m organized. And I’m still trying to piece my own self together. I can’t sleep at night because how could I close my eyes when there’s a whole world out there calling my name, waiting to be explored. I love intelligent conversations while laying on empty sheets at 5am in the morning. And I love watching the sun rise over a world that is still asleep. I make mistakes and I mess up a lot. But I’m trying to learn how to be okay with that. Some days, I couldn’t care less about what all of you think of my art because this is my life and all I have. But then there are days when I want, all I want is to be beautiful and good enough and someone to count on. Someone to like and love and believe in. I just really want to mean something to someone. I believe in the future, for I have seen yesterday and I am still alive. I laugh a lot and I believe in the beauty in small things like the coffee in the morning and with someone you love, road trips to nowhere and oceans. I remember every single word from conversations and I have a whole box of unsent letters to myself and every person I have ever met.”
I love that passage that you wrote. Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Charlotte: Thank you, yeah. I guess that kind of says most of it. I’m a pretty simple person but I think I’m just like everyone else. I know what I want and I doubt myself but at the same time, I’m very sure about what I want. And yeah, I’m just trying to find my way, really. I guess.
Jeff: Yeah, well you’re very sure about what you want. And you go for it.
Charlotte: I think that’s what you have to do. Because I think that you just have to find something you believe in so much that nothing can take it away from you. And when you find that, when you know, you will know when you find what you’re meant to do. And when you find that, nothing can stop you. You just have to believe in it. And just make a decision and stick to it, no matter what, I think.
Jeff: Yeah. Well, how did you find out what was meaningful for you?
Charlotte: Well, music is my thing then. And when I found music, it was quite late I found music. I think I was 16 years old. I’m not from a musical background. My family’s not into music at all. But when I stumble upon it, when I heard that song that actually connect me to it so much, I just knew that this is – everything felt okay and I felt like I have found my place. And from that day, it’s been everything I am, everything I do. And I made a decision, and I just went for it.
Jeff: Okay, so where were you living when you were 16 years old? Because you’re all over the place.
Charlotte: Well, I am from Gothenburg in Sweden.
Charlotte: So that’s where I lived until I was 18 years old. I moved to London all on my own.
Jeff: Okay, so why did you move to London?
Charlotte: Well, because I had made this decision to dedicate my whole life to my music, that’s what I wanted to do. And in Gothenburg where I’m from, you can’t really go out and play music and live music in the way that you can do in London. London is like the musical capital in Europe. And you know in London, you can – there are venues everywhere in London, there are open mic’s and you can basically play every night if you want to. Well, in Gothenburg where I’m from, we have one single venue. So I moved there to just dive into the whole music world and just start over, really. Because I needed diving.
Jeff: Awesome, awesome. Well, that was a pretty big step for an 18-year old to take. Were you scared?
Charlotte: Oh, definitely. I was so scared. It was the hardest thing I’ve ever done and the first two years, it was a lot of nights where I just wanted to give up and go home and – because I didn’t know anyone when I came to London neither. I was all alone and I had no idea what to do. But I think that when you find something, like I said, when you find something that you believe in so much, there is still this voice in your head that makes you just stay on track and keep pushing you even though it’s hard and even though you actually want to give up. And you just need to focus on that voice.
Jeff: So it sounds like your passion for music and for doing what you really wanted in life outweighed the fear.
Charlotte: Oh, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Some days I’m still scared and especially when it comes to art because you are so open, and there are opinions, and people have bad opinions about you. You share your heart, really, with the world. And so it’s scary but at the same time, it’s my life. And it’s everything I have and everything I do so there’s no alternative, I think. And I think that that’s what you have to do. You can’t have a plan B. If I had a plan B, I would be on plan B right now. Because there were so many nights when I wanted to give up. But you just have to – there can’t be any alternates if you just have to stick to it.
Jeff: So everybody says you should have a plan B. But you say no.
Charlotte: I don’t believe in plan B’s. I think that if you really want something bad enough, there’s always a way to get it. But if you have a plan B, and you go out in the world and you think that well, if it doesn’t work out, I’ll just go back to plan B. You’re not going to give everything you have. But if you go out there and you say this is the only alternative, there is no other way. Then you will give everything you have. Even though there are days where you feel like, “Okay, this is not going to work.” If you don’t have a plan B, you’re going to push anyway because there is no other way.
Jeff: Yeah, yeah.
Charlotte: So I don’t believe in plan B’s at all.
Jeff: That’s awesome. That’s awesome. I love that perspective. Well so, what happened? You moved to London, and then what happened?
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Well, I spent basically the first year just learning about the music industry. Because you know when it comes to music, it’s so much about marketing and how to actually go out and make your music heard. And so I spent the year just learning. I’m at managers and labels and just try to soak in as much as possible. Then when I thought that I knew enough, I’ve started my own record label and I started to release my own music. And that’s what I’m doing until today. I’m doing everything myself.
Jeff: That’s awesome. Do you still live in London?
Charlotte: No. I lived in London until – what is it now? – two months ago.
Jeff: Oh, okay.
Charlotte: I just moved to Berlin in Germany.
Jeff: Awesome. Awesome. What made you move to Berlin?
Charlotte: Well, I think that Berlin is kind of the new London in a way.
Jeff: Ah, okay.
Charlotte: Yeah, there’s so much buzz going on about it and the music scene is amazing. And there are a lot of stars up and people are very new thinking. They embrace the whole online digital marketing and just trying to find all these things. While in England, people still want to think in a traditional way. Especially in the music industry, they still believe in the old routes with labels and all these middle hands. I don’t want that. I just want to go straight to my fans and do it independently. So yeah, Berlin is amazing.
Jeff: So the move to Berlin was more – it was about getting – being around people that are kind of compatible with the way you think and that will support you in the way you think and the way you want to grow.
Charlotte: Definitely. And I also, first of all, I am kind of a wonder. I need new places just to get inspired. But yes, I think that just the people I’ve met so far, they have been so much more open to new ideas and so much more creative. And I get so inspired by that, too.
Jeff: Let’s talk a little bit about the marketing of your music. And I know I’m not an expert on music marketing. In fact, actually, I just had Bob Baker on the show last week. Do you know Bob?
Charlotte: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah.
Jeff: Okay, Yeah.
Charlotte: I don’t know him. I don’t know him personally but I know about his blog and everything.
Jeff: Oh, okay. Yeah, he’s the author of Guerrilla Music Marketing and he was on the show last week and that guy is really into lifestyle. He is a fascinating guy. But anyway, I want to talk a little bit about how do you get the word out about your music? Because I think that there’s a lot of people out there who think that if you want to be a musician, and you want to sell records that you have to get with a big record label, and you have to kind of do it the traditional way. You have like a one in a ten bazillion chance of actually getting discovered and being successful.
Charlotte: Yeah, definitely. Well, I think that if you want to make a living as a musician, you have to be smart. I know in London, there are – I know so many people that are so talented, songwriters and musicians. And they sit in their rooms and they make these amazing songs. And they are so good but no one will ever hear it because they don’t have the marketing head. You have to have that, it’s 50-50 really.
And so what I did when I moved to London, and I started learning about the music industry, I figured it quite fast that either I can spend five years chasing a label, trying to convince them to like my music, and then maybe, if I’m lucky enough, they will take me on. And in that case, I would have to price my music anyway, because that’s what labels do. Or, I can just take it in my own hands and start releasing my music right away. Because you can do that today. You don’t need the big labels. I can record my music all on my own and just put it up in iTunes and do all the marketing myself.
So that’s what I did. And I also figured it quite fast that online is the way to go today. So I went on social media. That’s basically where I’ve built my whole career. Twitter, Facebook and Tumblr. Mostly, nowadays, Pinterest you quite a lot. And yeah, that’s basically where I’ve built my whole fan base. Formed up fans there and I communicate with them daily, especially on Twitter. I have quite a big following on Twitter. And I just love that connection you can get through social media because they’re like my friends now. And that’s how you make real fans that will stay with you forever. So that’s how I built my fan base, really.
Jeff: That’s awesome. So when you put something out on iTunes, if you put it out there, do people just flock you and buy it without you doing anything?
Charlotte: Oh, no. I have to do – you know, it’s a – I’m quite into the whole marketing. Like I think you need to be interested and it’s to make it work. And I really love it. I love trying out new strategies of how to reach people and everything. I guess that’s why I’ve been quite successful with it.
But before a release, I spend at least six weeks first of all trying to reach music blogs. Because I think blogs are still a really good way to get connection. So, I try to gain exposure through music blogs and some traditional media and not that much. But then mostly, I try to make the fans that I have share with their friends. If I post a new song on Facebook, I ask them to share it and post it on their blogs and their Facebooks and everything. And it’s just word of mouth, really. Because that’s the most powerful thing there is. When real people share it with their friends and everything. That’s when you believe in it, I think.
Jeff: Yeah, yeah. You mentioned that you tried to get your fans to share it. And I know, I actually just got done reading The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell.
Charlotte: Oh, yeah.
Jeff: Isn’t that an amazing book?
Charlotte: So, it’s a great book, yeah. Yeah. I’ve got some of the great ideas from that book and so.
Jeff: Yeah, yeah. So it really makes you believe in the power of word of mouth and kind of those mavens and connectors and those salesmen that he talks about in there. But the question I’d have for you is, what have you done? How are you able to get your existing fans to share your music? Aside from it being just freaking phenomenal, which I am a huge fan of yours, by the way.
And it’s so funny because my assistant and I have been chatting as he was scheduling you. Because we actually had to reschedule this a couple of times. And because we had a comedy of errors in getting the schedule. But we were just emailing you back and forth and we’re like, “Oh, yeah. I listened to some of her music, it was awesome.” And he’s like, “Oh, yeah. Did you listen to this song? And I’m like, “Oh, yeah. That was awesome. How about this one?”
But anyway, whatever you’re doing, it worked with us. But anyway, so that was a side bar. But my real question is, aside from your music being awesome, how do you get – and we’re going to hear some of that later in the show – but how do you get folks to share it?
Charlotte: I found my – I think they might first trust in me as a friend, because I am so open and for real. I think that that’s have to be. I’m not like a superstar and I can’t talk to them. I am just one of them. And like, the thing that you read in the beginning, I’m just like them. And they can talk to me and I’m here. And I’m not special, I’m just a girl trying to find my way in life. And I’m just writing music about it.
And I think that’s what connects to people because I’m just a person, I’m nothing special. And I think that’s what they feel like they are doing this journey together with me instead of just watching me do it. And I’m always saying it to them that I’m nothing without them. I couldn’t do this without their help. And so, we’re doing this journey together. And I think that’s when they feel that they are a part of whatever is going on in my career, really. And they want to help that way.
Jeff: I see, I see. So, it’s really all about just being genuine and sharing yourself and building up that trust with your fans.
Charlotte: Definitely, yeah. I don’t believe – if you want to do it all independently, I do not believe in having an image. I do not believe in images at all. Because that’s when you lie to people. That’s when you can’t be yourself. You have to be yourself completely because if you want to make a life of this, not just a job or a career, you want to be able to be yourself because that’s how you can live with yourself for years and years. And so, I think that’s that’s why they trust me, really.
Jeff: It’s interesting because I do – I consult for people who are creating lifestyle businesses and doing marketing consulting, and I’ve been approached about helping people with music marketing. And I have always shied away from it because my thought has been, that’s kind of a specialty niche that I don’t really know much about.
But it’s interesting because as I talk to people – you’re actually the second musician that I’ve had on the show recently – but as I talk to people, they’re so much the same, whether you’re marketing business consulting or music or life coaching or whatever it is, it all comes back down to that very same core tenant of building trust, building a relationship with folks and then asking them to buy.
Charlotte: Yeah, definitely. And I also think it’s really important, I think, in the beginning when you start out, you cannot reach out to people and ask them to buy your product. Because my music is basically my product. And so, in the beginning, you have to build a relationship like I said, you have to be friends. And then when you release your music, they will buy it and share it without you asking because they want to help you. But if you reach out to them first and say, “Hey, I have a product, you want to buy it?” Why would they do that?
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Jeff: Right. Because somebody’s saying that to them every five minutes.
Charlotte: Exactly, yeah. Because there are so many things today. There are products everywhere that you can buy.
Charlotte: And so, why would I buy your product? Well, because you’re my friend. That’s why I would buy.
Jeff: Well, it’s funny, because the next question I was going to ask you is, how do you take that relationship, and how do you turn those folks into buyers? But it sounds like that just happens organically.
Charlotte: Yeah, I think you also have to be kind of consistent. I mean, if you find a fan that really, really likes your music or your product, you can’t go six months without talking to them. And then expect them to know that you have an album out.
Jeff: Oh, okay.
Charlotte: I think that if you find someone, you have to maybe reach out through emails. I have a newsletter once a month. And so I just remind people that I exist basically and I post every single day on my Facebook and Tumblr and stuff like that. And so I think, it is kind of you have to keep them interested. You have to give them a reason to come back every single day to see what you’ve been up to. And I think–
Jeff: Well, what kind of things do you talk about on a daily basis?
Charlotte: I post a lot of – well, first of all, I update them on new music. I write new music all the time.
Jeff: Oh, okay.
Charlotte: And then I kind of, I always have new products. I just self-published my first book which is about my journey on this road, basically.
Jeff: That’s awesome.
Charlotte: Yeah, it was really interesting. Because like you said, I have to learn about the whole book-publishing industry and I how to market a book. And even though it’s a bit different, I think at the same time, marketing music or a book or another product, it’s all the same. It’s just about building relationships, really.
Jeff: Yeah, yeah.
Charlotte: So, yeah. I’m trying to post a lot of inspirational stuff and just things that inspire me and that I’m thinking about every single day and…or pictures. Or just – it doesn’t have to be so complicated. Just small things that makes people want to come back.
Jeff: Yeah. Do you think you inspire your fans?
Charlotte: I hope so. I’d like to believe so. I do think that, especially in my book, what’s kind of all about motivating people and inspiring people to go after their dreams. Because that’s kind of what I’m trying to do. And not settle for the system that the society is kind of building up that you have to have a day job, and you have to do this and do that. Just find what you believe in, and just go for it blindly. And if people say no, just keep going.
Charlotte: So, I’d like to believe that I inspire some people.
Jeff: Yeah, that’s awesome, and I know you are. What’s the name of your book?
Charlotte: Empty Roads & Broken Bottles: in search for The Great Perhaps.
Jeff: Empty Roads & Broken Bottles – and what was the subtitle?
Charlotte: In search for The Great Perhaps.
Jeff: In search for The Great Perhaps. We’ll link that up below the show.
Charlotte: Yeah, cool.
Jeff: So, that sounds awesome. But so, have people throughout your career, have they told you no? Have they told you you’re crazy, you’re doing the wrong thing, you’re throwing your life away, you’re never going to make ends meet?
Charlotte: Oh, so many times. And I still do. When I first moved to London, both my family and my friends in Sweden, they just laughed at me when I said that I wanted to be a songwriter. They’d said I was naive and young. And I would come back in six months and take a day job. They still sometimes ask me like, “When are you actually going to take a real job?”
But I think when people don’t believe me, you have to kind of turn it around to motivation and say, I want to prove them wrong. I want to show them that I can. Because there are so many things that can bring you down otherwise.
Jeff: What do you say to those folks?
Charlotte: I think in the beginning, I kind of try to defend myself, I try to tell them – I think I try to show them with everything I did that “Hey, I can actually sing. I can actually do this. I can – I’m not hopeless.” But now, when someone says that, when someone don’t believe in me or says that, “You can’t do that.” I kind of just get fueled by it. Like, I want to do it even more then. Because I’d like the thought of proving people wrong, I think.
Jeff: That’s awesome. Well, tell me what is your life like, kind of on a day to day basis. And I know there’s no typical day for someone like you, but just tell me a little bit about kind of, what does your life look like?
Charlotte: Yeah, like I said, that’s kind of what I love about it. Because everyday is different. It depends on what kind of projects I’m working on lately. It’s been a lot with my book. I’ve been marketing that [inaudible 00:21:32] and trying to reach out with my book.
Right now, I’m writing a lot of music for my new second album, so I’m writing every single day, I’m recording every single day. But then, also just actually trying to reach out through social media everyday and creating stuff. I’m writing a lot. Yeah, just trying to push really, and be inspired and keep creating.
Jeff: That’s awesome. Let me ask you this, what percentage of your life, if we were to look at your whole life, let’s forget – let’s assume you sleep eight hours each night. And maybe it’s more, maybe it’s less. But the remaining time of the remaining what, 12 hours of each day, no, 16 hours of each day – don’t do math live on the show, it’s the lesson for the day. Of the remaining 16 hours in each day, how many of those hours do you spend doing something that you love?
Charlotte: Every single hour. Every single second. Every single day. That was the promise to myself that I made when I moved from London that I’m going to build a life for myself that I want to live. I want to live a life where I can – I don’t want to spend eight hours doing something that I don’t like just to get money to pay for a flat that I don’t have time to be in anyway. I want to spend every single second doing what I love, because life is short. And that’s how I want to live my life. So, I go up and I do what I love. All the time.
Jeff: That’s amazing. So you are either sleeping or doing something you love.
Charlotte: Definitely. I think that’s how you have to live. And if you haven’t found what you love yet, you have to keep searching. I don’t believe in settling. It’s so easy to find a comfortable job that pays the rents. But life is short. If you go out there in the world and you meet people and you find something that makes your heart beat so much, and it makes you excited to wake up every morning, I wake up 6am by myself because I’m so excited about all the things that I get to do. And I can’t even imagine going back to doing something that I don’t love.
Jeff: You said something I thought was kind of cool. You said, if you don’t know, if you haven’t found yet what you love, just keep trying. What would you tell somebody who hasn’t figured out what that thing is yet that they love doing more than anything else?
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Charlotte: I’d say try things that you would never even imagine yourself doing. Like, if you ask me 10 years ago, I would laugh if you said I would be a songwriter. I didn’t even listen to music when I was younger. Like, I thought it was ridiculous to do music because I didn’t get it.
And I’d say, you can’t possibly know who you are if you don’t try stuff. It’s so easy to limit yourself because you think that you’re a certain person. But just go out and try stuff that you never thought you would try. And I swear, you will find something that makes your heart beat. Because there are so many amazing things out there and you just need to try it. And there’s still so many things that I want to try and do that has nothing to do with music, too. I haven’t found everything I love yet. But that’s exciting part that there are so many things to discover and explore.
Jeff: Yeah. Yeah. That’s awesome. So try something that you could never imagine yourself doing.
Jeff: That’s awesome advice. That’s awesome advice. What’s the best part of your life?
Charlotte: I think the best part of my life is that I get to do everything on my own terms. I’m very happy that I went the independent route because this way, I don’t have to compromise my art. I can create everything I want on my own terms and release it when and how I want to. I can move wherever I want to, because I have no contracts on anything. And I’m very happy about that. I have friends who signed contracts for labels or managers and they’re so stuck right now because they can’t get out. And I feel very free, which I’m very, very happy about.
Jeff: What do you say is the biggest mistake that you’ve made on this journey that you’ve been on?
Charlotte: I would say the biggest mistake I did – well, I’m still making a lot of mistakes. And to be honest, I don’t regret anything because I’ve learned everything I know by making mistakes. That’s how I learned. And I think you have to make mistakes because that’s how you can turn around and say, “Hey, that didn’t work, let’s try something else.”
Charlotte: And but what I would do differently is to trust people more. Because I’ve always been very protective and very guarded. If someone came with an advice for me, a year ago, I would just say no, he’s trying to get something from me, or he wants something. But if I actually would have been a bit more open and actually listened to it, then I think I will [inaudible 00:26:28].
Jeff: So, you would trust people more if you had to do it over again? Where are you going? What’s next for Charlotte Erickson?
Charlotte: Well, since I just moved to Berlin, I’d love to spread my music over here. And I’m going to play a lot of live shows here. There are a lot of amazing venues you can play. But now, I’m also writing for my second album. And I’m writing for my second book. So hopefully, I’ll have an album and a book out within a year, hopefully.
Jeff: That sounds awesome. What about five years from now?
Charlotte: Oh, god. I don’t know. I don’t even know where I’ll live in three months. Well, what I want to do, I just want to keep creating and learning and inspire people I meet, people they’ll inspire me. And if that takes me – I’m kind of a wanderer, I’d love to travel the world more and spread my art. By meeting people in person. Well, just keep creating stuff and these art, really.
Jeff: I get the feeling that you like the fact that you don’t know where you’re going to be in five years.
Charlotte: Definitely. It’s about the exploration. I’m a curious person. I love waking up and not knowing what’s going to happen in three hours. Because there are so many possibilities everyday. And I want to go outside, open the door, and just see where it takes me. Because that’s when you are open to all the possibilities. I think if you restrict or limit yourself too much, you’re never going to be as much as you can be.
Jeff: Yeah. That’s awesome. And there’s not many people in this world who embrace and love not knowing. That’s a very rare trait. And that is a trait that I think –
Charlotte: I know.
Jeff: Do you think if more people had that trait, it is to be a better world?
Charlotte: I think that some people are just happy going to their jobs everyday and knowing exactly what’s going to happen. I am not one of these people. I love the uncertainty. I love the risky parts. Because that’s what gives me ecstasy. That’s what makes me excited about life. But you just have to find your way of living. That works for me but it’s not going to work for everyone.
Jeff: Yeah. I think that it works for a lot more people than realize it. Because it’s not – this isn’t a path. The path that you’ve chosen is not one that is generally acceptable in society. I’m in the US, you grew up in Sweden, you’ve been to London, you’re in Berlin and then I think, in all of those places, we can very clearly say that this is not something that is a normal, accepted path.
Charlotte: No. That’s why so many people are still asking me when I’m going to get a job. Because they see it as I’m wandering around, but for me this is how I want to live my life.
Jeff: Yeah. Yeah. And I love it. So, what would you advise someone else who wants to do this?
Charlotte: I would say, be sure about what you want. And don’t doubt yourself. Find what you like. Consider different possibilities but find what you want to do and make a decision. Stick to it no matter what. Write it down, make a plan and just go for it. And I think that you have to dream bigger.
If you restrict yourself, love, like I said, you’re not going to be as much as you can be. If I move to London and I said, “Hey, I’m just going to try this out, and if it doesn’t work, I’ll go back.” I would be back by now. But I went there, I said, “I’m going to find the biggest dream that I can ever find and I’m going to go for it.” And I have just come halfway but I’m going to go for it. And I think you have to do that.
Jeff: That’s amazing. That’s amazing. Now where can our listeners go – and you’re going to play some of your music for us, and I cannot wait – I’ve got a bowl of popcorn and a glass of wine here ready to sit back and enjoy the show. But before we get to that, before we get to that, where can our listeners go to get more information about you?
Charlotte: You can go to theglasschildofficial.com where you will find all my links to Twitter and Facebook and everywhere. On Facebook, you can go facebook.com/theglasschild. I’m releasing all my music under the glass child.
Jeff: All right. Well, we will – we’ll link that up below the show as well as a link to your book. And what are you going to play for us today?
Charlotte: Well, I’m going to play a song called Best Part of Me.
Charlotte: Which I actually wrote when I first moved to London. I wrote this about the people that I left.
Charlotte: So, I’m going to try to grab my guitar. Without crashing my mic here. Okay, let’s go.
Jeff: Amazing. That was Charlotte Erickson performing the Best Part of Me, which is going to be on her new album, it’s not out yet. But go to her website at theglasschildofficial.com and you can get all the latest updates. You can also follow her on Facebook at facebook.com/theglasschild, that’s theglasschild, and we will have both of those links below the show. There’s also going to be a link to her book below which is Empty Roads & Broken Bottles: in search for The Great Perhaps. Again, it’s Empty Roads & Broken Bottles: in search for The Great Perhaps.
Charlotte is the type of person that is an inspiration to me and inspiration to everyone. She knows exactly what she wants out of life, and she is not stopping until she gets it. One of the things she talked about that I think is so cool is she talked about how there is no plan B. There is no turning back. It is what I want or nothing else.
And imagine if everyone in this world had that mentality and that attitude of I am going to get what I want no matter what. There is no plan B. It’s going to happen, period. And what happens when we take that mentality? When we take that mentality, there is literally no plan B anymore. The only option when you’re moving forward is to figure out another way to get to where you want to go.
And that roadblock comes up just like Grover taught us on Sesame Street, over, under, around or through. And you figure out a way to get past that roadblock. And that is why Charlotte is going to be extremely successful. And most of all, she’s going to be extremely happy. Because when you’re pushing that relentlessly towards something, it is a lot of work. But do you think she ever gets tired? She doesn’t get tired. Because she loves every second of everyday of what she is doing. She has designed her life in an amazing way and in a way that is an inspiration for everyone.
So, that’s it for this episode. Join us next week when we’re going to talk to another person just like you who has said, “To hell with the working world.” And has figured out a different way that lets them be as happy as they possibly can be. If you want to get notified, hit subscribe in youtube or subscribe in iTunes or subscribe via RSS which you can do if you’re on the website. You can also enter your email below and you’ll get email notifications when a new show comes out. Also, don’t forget to leave a comment. Let Charlotte know that you appreciate her being on the show and tell her how she inspired you.